Comments on: LCDS 3.0 released

By: Sugan

Sugan — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 11:32:25 +0000

Hi, Any progress on the licensing costs?

By: Matthew

Matthew — Sat, 26 Nov 2011 01:06:11 +0000

Anil, how are sales doing, since pricing was altered almost two years ago?

I see Adobe is now pulling back in the Enterprise space according to this InfoWorld article, stating that less that 10 percent of revenue last quarter was from products such as LiveCycle…

http://www.infoworld.com/d/the-industry-standard/adobe-ends-mobile-flash-player-reveals-enterprise-pullback-178474

We’d really like to know what you’re thinking…

By: Foomaroxsex

Foomaroxsex — Sat, 02 Apr 2011 01:29:23 +0000

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By: dumbbells

dumbbells — Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:26:44 +0000

But who will benefit from working with weights? Anyone who wants to improve their body shape, increase strength and fitness will benefit, so that covers about all those who intend to work.

By: Travis Somerville

Travis Somerville — Thu, 07 Oct 2010 18:17:26 +0000

Adobe / Anil.

The posts on this forum have been amazingly well written, and civil. I’m still in shock at the pricing, only coming to realize my product’s fate, and I’m having trouble not cussing up a storm in my response.

Please update us or tell us who at Adobe is in a position to make a better pricing decision.

Are you still listening??

By: Mohan

Mohan — Wed, 29 Sep 2010 07:50:56 +0000

Anil,
There has been lot of feedback given on this blog. It has been a long time. We are waiting for a final response from Adobe and yourside on this.

Do let us know

By: Citronella

Citronella — Tue, 18 May 2010 10:04:15 +0000

For most users, like myself, push (through RTMP) is used in its most basic form. ie. data management is not required. Buying LCDS is in this use case, throwing money down the drain. I myself use BlazeDS + red5 (for push) and the MuleRTMP extension for BlazeDS.
It works, no cost involved.

By: Matthew

Matthew — Sun, 16 May 2010 06:26:48 +0000

Anil, you have received a lot of input here. However, I can’t help but notice that the sharing of information has not been reciprocated. When do you plan to give us an update on what’s being done on your end, if anything? Subtle hints are all we have thus far. It would be great to bring some closure to this thread.

By: Anil

Anil — Tue, 04 May 2010 15:13:10 +0000

Jon, thanks for the input. Could you be more specific ?

What specific aspects of Data Management are you using?
Also, I am not sure I understand you statement “for complicated data structures, the list that gets sent to the datagrid is a denormalized object anyways and isn’t the object that LCDS will manage. Even the lazy loading of objects doesn’t fix this. So $30K for a product that doesn’t even really work in the real world”. Can you give me an example?

Feel free to send me an email (anilc@adobe.com) if that is convenient.

By: Jon

Jon — Tue, 04 May 2010 14:53:16 +0000

We’re also put off by the price of LCDS. My product barely uses the data management portion. We only use the ability to push updates to different datagrids. (see my rant in the next paragraph) we’re not even using RTMP. In order for us to do this we have to pay $30K!!! I’m starting to regret using Flex (we’ve been developing for the past 5 years and thousands of $ in Flex builder license later) What I would like to see is Adobe integrate the data management (maybe a simpler one without paging etc) into BlazeDS WITHOUT RTMP. That way they control the bandwidth throttle and richer organizations (That my company will be someday) can afford to pay for the high traffic ability.

The data management only really works for very simple objects. For example, for complicated data structures, the list that gets sent to the datagrid is a denormalized object anyways and isn’t the object that LCDS will manage. Even the lazy loading of objects doesn’t fix this. So $30K for a product that doesn’t even really work in the real world. Come on Adobe…